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♪ ♪ ♪ Amanda> Well, good evening and welcome to Making It Grow .

We sure are happy you can be with us tonight.

I'm Amanda McNulty.

I'm a Clemson Extension Agent, and I'm here with my fellow Clemson cohort Terasa Lott.

And she... Terasa's our co-host, and she just does a wonderful job keeping up with our Facebook page and all kinds of things.

Terasa> Well, thank you Amanda.

It really is my pleasure.

It's so much fun.

We get lots of questions that come in through our Facebook page, and I do my best to answer them, but I want to make sure that folks know it is really just me, and they're welcome to reach out to our Home and Garden Information Center, where we have staff that are dedicated to answering questions from around the state.

Amanda> And you can call them on the phone and you can send the pictures through the email.

I mean, they're just great, great, great people up there.

And if you get a soil test back, sometimes people don't quite understand how to follow it.

And they'll, they'll just walk you right through it.

Terasa> That's right.

It can be a little confusing.

So sometimes you need a little help interpreting.

Amanda> Yes, yes.

Anyway Well, we are certainly glad that you're here to interpret anything that goes awry.

Thank you so much.

<Thank you> Amanda> Okay.

Rob Last, the water... you used to do watermelons, and now you got moved up to Lexington.

And it's collard green city.

Rob> Collard green city and strawberries.

Right now, Amanda as well, Yes.

Amanda> Oh that's right.

Yeah.

Rob> Right in the thick of strawberry season.

Amanda> Okay.

And, you know, I really make an effort at the store to I look at where the strawberry... I want strawberries that are from South Carolina.

Rob> Absolutely.

I mean, local produce is always going to be fresher.

It's had less food miles and is ultimately more sustainable.

Amanda> Yeah, it's much more sustainable for the, you know, for, for everything for the climate.

<Absolutely.> Yeah.

And they taste better too.

Gosh.

Some of those, those strawberries can really be fun.

Rob> Oh yes.

Yeah.

Amanda> Okay.

Amanda> We'll have to get Terasa to make something for us.

Terasa's such a good cook.

Terasa> Rob, I think might be, have a, have a leg up in the baking, baking skills.

Amanda> He likes to do that, too.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, Brandon Green, we're so thrilled this is your first time here.

Hooray, a new person!

Woohoo!

We'll be nice to you, I promise.

And you are the Extension Urban Hort Agent up in Union.

And you tell me that you even have a landscape architecture degree.

>> Yes, ma'am.

I have a background in landscape architecture.

That's what I actually studied.

But I've took so many hort classes and turf grass classes in Clemson.

that I got minors in those too, so that's what I ended up enjoying and got passion.

So I became a hort agent.

Amanda> Well, and landscape "architecturalists", say four bushes, you know, 5 to 6 feet tall.

They don't know anything about plants.

I mean, some of them do.

I'm so sorry, but, but you of course do.

<Yes, ma'am.> Yeah, yeah, yeah, but we're just thrilled that you made the trek down.

Thank you so very much.

Well, and then from Forest Lake Greenhouses, Katie Philippi is here, and you've got, my gracious, it looks like spring just sprung in the studio.

>> Well, it's the height of the spring season.

Mother's day is coming up, so we're getting ready for that.

We're stocked.

We have so many things available.

<Okay, fun> We offer lots of things from annuals to perennials, trees, shrubs, <And advice.> tropicals, advice.

Yes.

<Yeah>, our staff is.

Amanda> And a nice smile, as well.

Okay.

<Thank you.> Amanda> Well, and then we're going to have some fun things for you to watch.

Our friend Herrick Brown at the USC Herbarium went to Hawaii and he came in and told us all about things he saw there.

It's a very it's, you know, lots of things have been taken to Hawaii.

So anyway.

And some of them get real big there and don't get big in other places.

It was a fascinating talk.

And then MANRRS Redfern Community Garden up at Clemson.

Carmen Ketron went up there.

and interviewed a kid who planted it.

He just does such a great job there.

It was so much fun that if you, if you have a sore throat, and you go over to the community garden, at least you could have these beautiful flowers.

Look at them, and make you feel better, even if they don't give you any penicillin or whatever they normally give you.

(exhales) Well Terasa, I know that you have some wonderful Gardens of the Week, and I bet that since spring is here, you got some particularly pretty ones.

Terasa> Oh, yes.

Our viewers never disappoint.

They provide lots of photos when it comes to our call for Gardens of the Week.

It's your time to shine, whether it's from your yard or perhaps another beautiful space in the state of South Carolina, Sometimes even outside of the state.

So let's see what our submissions look like today.

We begin with Tami Shealy, who shared a cedar flower box handcrafted by her husband in Lake Greenwood.

Amanda> That's mighty nice.

Isn't it?

Terasa> Yeah.

From Theresa Goewey, an iris in front of azaleas that are absolutely covered in flowers in Fountain Inn.

Sherry Beckemeyer shared an amaryllis in Hilton Head, and she reports enjoying new ones indoors during the winter and then planting them outside, where they return each year.

From Jeff Jackson, he created a planter for a friend, demonstrating the concentrated color that seasonal annuals can provide.

And last but not least, from Nicole Goodman, we have a gorgeous single iris that she said had a label, but she's no longer sure what it said, because she has kids.

So I think they might have rearranged or removed the plant label.

Amanda> Well, She just needs to remove her children's names and forget it.

Yeah, and an iris is still beautiful, regardless of what you call it.

Yeah.

Terasa> That's right.

Amanda> And, since you're here and I'm sure lots of amaryllis are making their way in and out of Forest Lake Greenhouses, and, but, you know, when you go to plant daffodils and things like that, you plant them, you know, a certain amount of space under the soil, but I think Amaryllis wants some different treatment.

Katie> Yes.

Amaryllis, usually, we have them in pots.

<Okay.> They're, they're in pots, and they're usually at least the top part is.

Amanda> Like a third, I think.

Katie> Yes.

Yes.

Amanda> Yeah, above the soil line.

Katie> Right.

Yeah.

Right.

So they're not planted all the way down They're a little bit above, but they provide the most beautiful blooms.

Yes.

Amanda> They are fun.

Katie> We do, Wax Myrtles too.

Those are popular for Christmas and early spring.

Amanda>Okay, okay.

But, Amaryllis Yeah.

They were, and next year, you'll have more blooms.

Katie> I know.

Amanda> Isn't that fun?

Katie> I love that.

Amanda> Okay.

All righty.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to get off track there.

Terasa> That's perfectly fine.

I think it was relevant.

You know, it was related.

Amanda> Thank you.

I'm glad that Well, I bet there's some people with questions that we're going to try to help.

Terasa> We are.

We are.

Let's see what's on our question list.

We'll try to help Lenny and Hopkins, who sent in a photograph, a very good photograph, by the way, and said, can you identify this insect for me?

Amanda> My goodness, an insect picture.

I'm glad.

It was a very good photograph.

Terasa> Yes, that's an important point.

So, sometimes we get photos that are unclear.

They're, they've tried to zoom in really close, and then the, the auto focus doesn't always work.

So we really do need good, good quality pictures to make an ID Amanda> Well, Rob, with this good quality photograph, were you able to figure out what this little insect was?

Rob> Unfortunately, yes.

I was able to Amanda.

Amanda> Oh, not a happy one.

Rob> This is a little, little bug we discovered last year.

It's an invasive pest It's called the cotton two spot leafhopper.

<Oh.> And characteristically, it looks very similar to any other leafhopper and is visible to the naked eye.

And you've got two distinct spots on the wings which gives its name and gives it a good identification.

Why are we concerned?

Well, we have very few insecticides that we know of currently, so we're working on research to find control measures.

Amanda> Oh my goodness.

Rob> It has a very broad host range.

So we've found it in cotton, obviously, okra, hibiscus.

<Oh> We've also found it a lot in eggplant.

And the damage you'll find on the leaves, looks like spider mite stippling.

<Oh.> So looking underneath the leaf, <Yeah.> and you'll find the insects feeding under there.

Amanda> Oh, so it goes under the leaf.

<Yes.> Wow, so you don't even see it.

Gosh.

Oh la, la, la.

And that even if you find something that controls it, it's going to be harder to do because you got to spray under the leaf.

Rob> Absolutely, and we don't know what's going to be effective in ornamentals or in certain of our vegetable crops either.

So that's what, you know, we are working on the research for that and there are some guys going in to try to answer those questions.

Amanda> Some things, commercial people, when you find something, the commercial people might be able to use it, but the homeowners may not.

Rob> That's the other issue.

Amanda> Oh goodness gracious.

Rob> We have some research going on and some grant, grant applications going in to, to study the pest.

But if you do find it and you want to get it positively identified, you can catch it and preserve it in, Amanda> Alcohol?

Rob> 70% percent alcohol.

<Okay.> Rob> So either take it to your local Extension office and we'll should, see if we can help or send it up to the plant pest diagnostic clinic.

Amanda> So they haven't... So I imagine they've been doing research in Florida, Rob> Yes, they have.

Amanda> for a good while, and they hadn't had a breakthrough yet either.

Rob> Not yet.

Amanda> Oh, la, la, la, la.

Rob> But we'll get there.

Terasa>Playing catch up, aren't we?

Rob> Absolutely.

But again as with all these things a new invasive pest comes in, we have to spring into action to try and figure out how to manage it.

Amanda> And poor Florida, I mean it's just an open door practically.

<Absolutely!> I don't see how they manage down there.

And imag...look at all the wonderful things we get to eat from Florida.

You know, I mean, but you know.

Rob> I mean, you have watermelon season, particularly, and a lot of fruit.

Amanda> Oh, gracious goodness.

Well, thanks for telling us to be aware of that.

And, so can you, I guess you could just squish it if you find it.

Rob> Yes, you can.

Amanda> Yeah.

<Yeah> Okay.

Oh, okay.

Well squish away people.

Terasa> That kind of question.

Amanda>Terasa?

What else can we squish?

Terasa> Let's see if, let's be Amanda> Or who can we help squish?

Terasa> more positive.

This one comes in from Ryan in Lockhart, South Carolina who said the grass around my newly built house looks good now, but I was warned that this may be temporary.

Is that true?

Amanda> Okay, so, this person has moved into a new house that was just built.

I guess the person who built it did some, put some stuff in the yard.

So what do you think's happening here?

Brandon> So, most likely was, has been put in the yard is what we call contractors mix.

Most of the time this is a grass seed that is, perennial rye, annual rye and fescue, maybe some other grass seeds, but they're mostly there to establish a quick lawn.

It gets it nice and green quick.

It's kind of cheap.

And it, the main thing is it helps with erosion because a lot of these newly built houses, it's just bare dirt.

Amanda> Yeah.

Brandon> So they want to get the grass down, Amanda> So it's not a bad thing.

Brandon> No it's not.

It's definitely not.

You get the grass down put some straw on top of it, water it and in about two weeks, you've got at least green grass growing in your yard.

Amanda>And what time of year can they put this down?

Brandon> They put it down mostly year round.

But really, in all areas, really pops in spring, and in all of the fall.

But like he said, temporary wise, it kind of is because the annual rye will only live for about one growing season, the perennial rye will hang on a little bit more, but the heat really kind of gets it and then fescue, if you have good irrigation, especially in the upstate of South Carolina, you'll have it hang on.

Amanda> We're not going to have fescue down here.

Brandon> You're not going to have fescue down here.

It's just too hot for it.

So really, the thing is you're going to have to either, if you already been keeping the fescue alive, either over seed with bare spots.

You may want to even do some irrigating because it's going to be compacted.

New construction you're always going to have compaction.

Amanda>...machinery.

Brandon> Exactly.

So you're going to want to do something like that, or you're going to want to figure out what type of grass you want permanently.

And that might be a warm season grass and you need to kind of figure those out based on what you're using your yard for, how much traffic's going to be in it, and how much maintenance you want to do.

So it's really the... Unfortunately, he is correct, it is kind of a temporary solution on your grass for that time.

Amanda> Okay.

And, Terasa, you know, we've been following Doug Tallamy, and he says you don't need a whole acre of just grass, of turf, you know, that you I mean, you can have enough turf to have, you know, but, you could, you know, but if you reduce that somewhat and plant native plants, you're helping the environment and, and you also, you know, not going to have to be spending as much time with a lawn mower.

Brandon> You do, That is the case.

You, this really just depends on what you want in your yard.

And so that's... Amanda>...and how much time and money you want to put in.

Brandon> Exactly.

So.

Amanda> Okay.

Well, thank you so much.

That was a big help.

I didn't know about that contractors mix.

Thank you so much.

Well, I bet we have some pretty things that you brought with you today.

Katie> I did, I brought some great things.

Amanda> Look how happy she looks.

(laughs) Katie> I have so much fun picking these out.

So the first thing we've got is a SunPatiens.

<Ah> So I know I'm sure you've heard of New Guinea...patiens, but this is just, a different, variety.

Amanda> New, and improved.

Katie> Basically.

Yes.

It's, it's, sturdier.

So it handles the sun a little bit better.

And I just love the variegation on the leaf here.

Amanda> Yes.

And it looks like it's got a reddish stem, doesn't it?

Katie> It does.

It has like, a very red... Amanda> Isn't it pretty.

Katie> It has a very red stem.

Amanda> Now, how tall is it going to get?

You suppose?

Katie> I am not sure about that one.

Amanda> Well, let's look at the tag and see.

<Let's see.> That's fair enough.

Katie> Looks like 16 to 30 inches.

Amanda> Whoa.

Katie> Yes.

Amanda> That's going to really make a pop.

Katie> Yes.

Amanda> Gosh.

Katie> So it's a great way to add color to a container for your height.

<Uh huh> Or you could put it in, like a raised bed.

That would take up some good space, and you could put some... Amanda> because, it's apparently this plant's going to grow some.

Isn't that wonderful.

Katie> Right?

You can watch it grow, which is great.

And then it's blooms are really pretty bright flowers.

Amanda> Oh even.

Gosh, it just has everything going for it Katie> Yes.

Amanda> Okay.

I like that.

Katie> I brought the classic petunia.

This one's a really pretty one.

It has, like, a double petal.

Petunias are great for the warmer months.

And they trail usually a good bit, as well.

Amanda> So that would be... in a hanging basket.

Katie> Yes.

Hanging basket, <Golly Pete> Pots very popular, especially for your, your containers.

Nice.

<Okay> In that same realm, a little bit different of a flower, you got your Million Bells, Calibrachoa, I think, is the Latin name.

It's just a, it's a very unique name, but Million Bells is, it's that's what people know it by, but it's a smaller flower.

It's another great spiller.

Amanda> So tell me, what other colors these two come in.

Katie> Any color you can think of.

Amanda> Uh uh, come on.

Katie> There's so many.

There are so many.

Yes.

Amanda> Wow!

Katie> It's a great display too.

Amanda> Now, these are annuals?

Katie> Yes.

Annuals.

<Okay.

Okay.> Yes.

Amanda> And the nice thing about annuals, I think, is that they tend to bloom most of the season.

Is that correct?

Katie> Yes.

Now why they, you know, annuals, why they may not come back next year, they'll give you an abundance of flowers for the spring and even into the summer.

Amanda> Okay.

Yes.

Wow.

Those are sure pretty.

Katie> I know.

<Okay.> I've got sweet potato vine that's another popular... It's not a flower, but it trails beautifully, <Oh, yeah.> in any container.

Yes.

I use it all the time in my containers every spring.

Amanda> And it really is vigorous.

Katie> Yes, yes.

I mean, it grows really fast.

<Yeah.> You get that instant gratification with it almost.

Amanda> And look at that great color.

Katie> I know, and it looks so good with everything too.

Yeah.

Lantana is super popular, especially for your pollinators.

Lantana is a great one.

<Uh huh> Your bees, your butterflies are going to love lantana.

And it's super popular.

Super popular.

There's a lot of different colors, as well.

Amanda> Yes.

Okay.

Katie> And then this is one of my favorites.

Amanda> I can see why.

That's pretty cool.

Katie> I love Celosia.

It's gorgeous.

It's like almost neon.

Amanda> Isn't it, though?

Katie> Yes.

This is an orange one, but we also have pink and yellow and, like, almost a dark purple with a dark leaf, as well.

Amanda> Wow!

Katie> Yes.

Amanda> Okay.

Boy, that's really pretty.

Katie> I know, I know, and then if, I brought a container, as well.

Amanda> Oh, because we could use these in baskets...golly pete.

Katie> So I brought a little example.

A cute little basket.

Amanda> That's the "darlingest" little thing, I've ever seen.

I brought this one because I just this is a petunia variety.

And this is one of my favorites this year.

Amanda> You know, and sometimes purple recedes, but with that white edge, it really pops.

Katie> Yes.

Right!

So it's that bright purple and it has the white edge, and then you've got Creeping Jenny down the front.

<Uh huh> That's a great one for containers.

And it's that bright neon green again.

And then you've got Vinca.

And Vinca's just a classic.

Periwinkle is, it's, it's common name.

And a lot of people call it periwinkle.

Amanda> Gosh, that is so much fun.

<Yes.> And that is a very unusual.

So you could hang that.

<Yeah.> That's great.

Katie> Yeah.

It has, like, a little stand, and then you also pull a basket.

Amanda> Yeah, very versatile.

<Yes.> Yeah.

Katie> That's right.

Amanda> Yeah.

Okay.

Rob> Correct me if I'm wrong, but annuals can be great ways of bringing in additional color into the landscape throughout the course of the year.

So <Yes>, we're almost trying to create that, continual bloom season.

Katie> Yes.

It's that.

It's that that quick gratification in the landscape.

Amanda> Yeah, yeah.

Goodness gracious.

That's fun.

Katie> Yes.

Amanda> Okay.

Well, as I said, it's always fun when Herrick Brown comes.

And he had a wonderful trip to Hawaii and told us all about it.

Amanda> Well, I'm happy today that Herrick Brown, who's the Curator of the Herbarium at the University of South Carolina, is with me.

And you have been on a big, exciting trip.

>> Yes, so about a quarter of the way around the world, in fact.

So left here, for Hawaii, and I was a little apprehensive at first because, the, the prospect of flying in a plane over a vast ocean and landing on a small island that's no bigger than, you know, Richland County here in South Carolina was, you know, a little bit disconcerting, but it's safe and we got there okay.

Amanda> Okay, but, it's a crazy place in so many ways because it's just a melting pot, not only of people, but the plant stuff that goes on there, I think.

Dr.

Herrick Brown> Right, exactly.

Yeah.

So one of the initial impressions that you have, and if you go there and you land in, Honolulu, you're going to be on the leeward side of the island.

So it's kind of the southwestern side of the island, and it's, at the leave of the winds.

So it tends to be drier because there's a mountain range on the northeast side that, basically creates a, what we call a rain shadow.

All the rain really kind of falls on the northeastern side.

And by the time the winds get over to the southwest, it's dry.

So initially, you kind of have this concept of Hawaii as being this lush tropical island, and it's looks like a desert landscape.

So it was kind of this, okay, I'm starting to understand this, you know, with my ecology brain turned on I'm thinking about these things.

And so we went out into, some of the, you know, more popular areas that people would visit when they go there.

Of course, Hawaii being a chain of volcanic islands, there are some extinct volcanoes and one that was nearby was, called Diamond Head.

And it's a state recreation area.

And you go into this crater and you're walking through and it reminded me of things that I had seen in like documentaries or like African savannas.

Lots of grasses, sort of acacia looking, trees that are sort of stunted in growth.

And as I started looking closer, I started thinking about, some of the news stories that I had heard a few years prior to this, of wildfires in Lahaina on Maui.

And one of the, potential contributors to that catastrophe was this introduced grass called Buffel grass, which is actually African in origin.

And I thought, I wonder if that's this stuff.

And sure enough, it is.

It's all over Olowalu, as well.

<Woah> And, apparently does good in that sort of dry climate.

Amanda> And just spread the fire, like mayo.

Herrick> Yes, imagine just vast fields of dry straw.

<Gosh> So, and it's funny, it's, buffel grass is the common name, but one of the connections that might, you know, draw you closer to home is that if you've ever walked through a field and found these, like, stickery things in your socks, called sand spurs.

<Yeah> It's the same genus of grass.

This one isn't quite as stickery but, if you look at the fruits on it, it looks really similar, and it's like Oh, no wonder this is- Amanda> So not a good place to walk in sandals.

<No> Yeah, okay.

Well, did you go to see some places that were a little greener?

Herrick> Yeah.

So yeah, we, we tracked up to Manoa Falls, which is, it's kind of on the leeward side of the mountain range, but still in the mountains.

So it was, nice and, tropical rainforesty kinda look.

And one of the first things that kind of strikes you there, as a botanist at least, is that you start seeing things that you recognize from, you know, garden centers and, house plants.

<Sure!> But they're growing as these huge canopy trees.

So things like, what you would call rubber tree or Ficus elastica, towering giants with all these aerial roots popping out of them.

Bird's-nest fern stuck to the sides of these trees, Staghorn ferns.

<Woah!> Just an amazing kind of mix of stuff.

And so, and that was the other thing that occurred to me was like, so this, rubber tree would be originally from parts of South America, and these staghorn ferns would be originally from southeastern Asia.

And then if you look at a map or you look at the globe, you can kind of see that it makes sense that Hawaii is basically six time zones from the East Coast, and it's six time zones from easternmost parts of Asia.

And so it's kinda like right smack in the middle of those two places.

<Okay> So as a, sort of stopping off point for a variety of different cultures, plants have been transported from those parts of the world.

And so you have this weird mix of species from all over the world, now.

Amanda> Herrick, I have a necklace I usually wear, but I have a different one on today.

And this is something I think they gave y'all in your check-in package at the hotel.

Herrick> This is actually made out of a type of seed from something called candlenut.

This is a plant that is actually in the same family that would give us things like Poinsettias, Euphorbiaceae.

Amanda> Oh, la, la, la, la.

Herrick> Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, and a lot of those things are kind of toxic.

They're not things that you would want to eat.

However, this particular seed from the candlenut tree is something that can be roasted and is then, edible.

But when it's polished up like this, of course, it's also quite attractive.

Amanda> It's beautiful.

Herrick> Yeah.

Another connection that it might have and some things that have been brought into South Carolina over the years are the, I have a specimen of one right here.

This is Tungoil tree, and this is kind of a kissing cousin of the candlenut tree.

At one point they were in the same genus, and then botanists got involved and said, "Eh they're a little bit different."

So they split things apart.

But you can kind of see the fruits on this tungoil tree.

Or they've been cut open, but there are seeds in there.

They are about the same size as these.

It's very similar in size and structure.

Amanda> Is this a native or an introduced plant?

Herrick> This would be a plant that would have been what the Hawaiians would call a "canoe plant."

So one that would have been brought by, some of the first Polynesians to settle the area.

<Oh!> Probably actually as a food plant or what they would call a famine food.

So times were really rough and they couldn't find other things, they would rely on this.

But, it wasn't like their primary source of nutrition.

Amanda> Whoa!

Okay.

What else are you going to show us?

Herrick> One specimen here to kind of illustrate the challenges that we have as herbarium curators and fitting an elephant ear on a standard sized herbarium sheet.

And, so the leaf is sort of folded up here.

But, the leaf of this plant would be used in some of the traditional cooking methods as a way of, like, wrapping material that would be sort of cooked in an underground pit.

And then, of course, the starchy sort of tubery root structure also can be, pounded into sort of a paste and made into something that, is also edible.

Amanda> Okay.

Well, let's see another one.

Herrick> This is an orchid.

<An orchid?> Yeah, in the genus Spathoglottis.

<Okay> And it would have originally occurred in like the Philippines, those sorts of areas.

And so, <Wow> there aren't too many orchids that are native to the Hawaiian Islands.

A lot of the plants, again, that have been brought there, are recently introduced, and I'm not exactly sure how this one managed to get there, but it wouldn't be considered one of the native species, and at any rate, it's quite attractive when it's flowering.

It has this nice, sort of chartreuse or, not chartreuse.

I'm trying to think of pinkish purple, bright colored flower, yeah.

And this specimen here was collected by a fellow named Otto Degener, back in the 1930's, who was a botanist.

And he was kind of, connected with New York Botanical Garden.

And the specimen here is actually past flowering.

So you can see this one structure here, is actually the fruiting capsule of the plant.

And then let's see, one of the other things that I saw there, that was another canoe plant was breadfruit.

And this is a tree that is related to mulberries.

Amanda> Yeah, and we've heard about breadfruit, you know, in history and- Herrick> Yeah, yeah.

And I think it's called that because, you know, basically it's like... it's bread, you know, it's the stuff of loaf.

(laughter) But, and it's really a remarkable tree.

It has these interesting sort of lobed leaves that look almost like fingers, kind of, stretching off of the trunk.

<Yeah> And then it produces these massive, globose, almost football sized fruits.

So, you get a lot of food out of just one fruit.

And so I was thinking about that, I was like, "Oh, that's so cool."

It looks like, just like the osage orange that I've seen growing in random places around South Carolina.

And if you look at the internal structure.

So I've got a specimen of osage orange, Which is- Amanda> Native to here.

Herrick> Native to North America, yeah.

But I think originally probably in Texas, Oklahoma.

Amanda> And maybe, it was great for arrows and so we think the Native Americans brought it with them, perhaps.

Herrick> Yeah, and you know, there's a whole history of like, how did this thing even exist if nothing ate it to disperse it.

Amanda> Bois d'arc, fun name.

Herrick> But here, this specimen's really interesting because we do have sort of a cross section of the fruit that shows that interesting structure.

If you were to open up a breadfruit fruit, it would look just like that.

But, you know, maybe five, ten times bigger.

Amanda> Wow, okay!

Herrick> This specimen from Otto Degener again, this is again from the island of O'ahu, 1930's.

And this is a specimen of Acacia koa.

So, you may have heard of koa wood before.

It's a native tree to Hawaii, and it was one of the things that, the islands were known for because it's a very strong wood.

Apparently, koa means something like strong or iron or something like that.

And, it's closest relatives that folks might be familiar with here in South Carolina is what we would call mimosa tree.

Amanda> Oh, okay.

Herrick> And, if you're familiar with that tree, it produces those pink sort of puffball looking blooms.

Amanda> It's invasive but it is awfully pretty.

Herrick> Right, it's, you know, native to South America, invasive here.

And the leaves are this very compound, feathery, sort of- Amanda> Blowing in the wind.

Herrick> Yeah, it gives this light, airy sort of feel to the whole plant.

Amanda> Well, let's talk about some other things that you actually have, you know, real things like pineapple.

I mean, everybody loves pineapple and supposedly fresh pineapples are just to die for, but- Herrick> Yes, absolutely.

If you've ever had a fresh pineapple, you'll know what I'm talking about.

So we've got a bit of a mess here, but, this is actually the growing part of a pineapple, so it's this rosette of leaves, and it's related to bromeliads.

So if you have any of those at home, you'll notice that sort of, whirl of leaves that makes, like, a little cup like structure that will hold water.

And so what'll happen is eventually, when this thing goes to flower, it sends up a little stalk and you see, like a baby little pineapple forms up there.

And as it matures, you can then harvest it, eat it, you can hack the top of that thing off and grow a new one.

<Come on!> And that's what I did.

[laughter] So I got this pineapple in Hawaii when I was there and brought it back.

It's one of the things that the USDA will let you take out of there.

<Yeah> And in fact, I've heard of some people they just pack an empty suitcase so they can fill them up with pineapple and ship them back.

Amanda> Why have you got this Spanish Moss?

Herrick> Well, so Spanish Moss is our closest relative to this group of plants.

So you'll see this in the coastal plain and areas along rivers and stuff.

It likes higher humidity and it is apathetic.

Spanish moss is hanging from those tree branches, but it's actually a very small cousin of a pineapple.

Amanda> Wow, well, what's this big fellow behind us?

We can just leave him there and they'll get a picture of it for us.

Herrick> So behind us, I have one of these plants that, might commonly be called Ti, T-I.

<Oh okay> And it's closely related to things like that corn plant, a dracaena.

<Yeah, sure.> If you're familiar with those.

In that same kind of group and, as botanists sweep, we like to move things around.

So it might have been in the Lily family at one point in time, and then it was closer to agave, and now I think we put it in with asparagus.

Amanda> Asparagus?

Herrick> Yeah.

So in the asparagus family.

There's a good dish that, that I tried making at home because I had some Ti plants and I had some elephant ears in the backyard called "lau lau pork" where you can, you can use different meats, but lau, lau and that really means just leaf, leaf.

So you first wrap the meat in the soft elephant ears, and you'll wrap it a couple times in those elephant ears.

And then, you use the Ti leaves, which are a little more rigid and tough, to wrap the outer part of the elephant ears.

Amanda> Hold it together?

Herrick> Yeah, yeah.

Almost like a tamale or empanada or something like that.

And then, you basically steam it or slow roast it.

I think traditional methods would be a pit of hot coals, and then you just kind of cover it with some other leaves.

Amanda> Okay.

They are some native plants.

And maybe you'll come back sometime and talk about what they're trying to do to keep some of the invasives at bay and save the native plants.

Would you be willing to do that for us?

Herrick> Yeah, that'd be great.

Amanda> Okay, alright.

Well, thank you so much.

I sure appreciate it.

I don't know if I'll ever get there, but I enjoyed getting a vicarious trip.

Thanks Herrick.

Herrick> Excellent, thank you.

Amanda> You know.

So Herrick goes and has such a wonderful time.

I don't know how much they got to do of the normal sightseeing, because, of course, he's going to want to go and look at plants all the time.

And he also brought us these really wonderful potato chips.

And, I've been trying to get my kids in California to send me some of the Hawaiian potato chips.

They were the best thing I've ever had in my life.

Anyway.

And they came from Plano, Texas.

How weird is that?

(laughs) Terasa> I think the only thing that could have been better is if Herrick took all of us to Hawaii.

Amanda> That would be pretty much fun.

Yeah.

And he took his kid His kid had a real good time, too.

Terasa> Oh, I bet.

Amanda> You know how little, you know, teenage boys can be kind of, you know, arrr, arrr, teenagers in general.

Anyway, but it was wonderful to learn about all that Anyway, Hats.

Hats.

Hats.

Yeah, well, these are church flowers because I went down near McClellanville, for a service at Brick Church.

If you've ever been in that part of the world, do go and see it.

It's on the Old Georgetown Road, which is dirt, and it's the road Terasa that George Washington walked down to go fight the British in Georgetown.

And this church Terasa> Very historic... is from like 1740.

Ah, it's just stunning.

Anyway, so they were church flowers, but, one of them was an Terasa> Amaryllis.

Amanda> An Amaryllis, yeah.

Terasa> It's so pretty.

Amanda> And then this one, I think, is Papyrus.

And anyway, this lady's husband, Pam... Baldwin, I think, was her name, grew it in a greenhouse, and so it had long, long stalks.

<Oh, wow.> Isn't that something?

<Oh, wow.> Yeah.

Anyway.

But it would look like it'd be fun to have for a hat.

And then I was going to tell you, if you use Amaryllis in flower arrangements, which they done because they were doing, you know, church flowers.

Amaryllis have a hollow stem, and you have to get sticks and, you could buy dowels, but they cost a whole lot of money.

And somebody just found this green thing somewhere.

Maybe it was part of a plant.

And you also need to wrap the bottom because they wrap, they curl up.

Anyway, so and so, if you go stick it in, if you're going to stick it in oasis and you didn't have a stick in it, it would, you know, break the stem.

Anyway.

But I think it's a cool plant to know about.

Anyway.

But they are just... Aren't they wonderful?

<They're so pretty> Yeah, yeah.

And so many wonderful colors.

Katie> And the blooms are massive.

Amanda> Yeah.

Katie> They're gorgeous.

Amanda> Anyway, so I thought that was, I thought that was kind of fun to have church flowers in a hat.

Yeah.

Terasa> Very fun.

And you provided a useful tidbit in terms of putting that stake in there to reinforce.

So maybe not so useful, but potentially interesting.

The botanical name is Hippeastrum And I just think that's fun to say.

Like, you like to say the Metasquoia glyptostroboides.

Amanda> Glyptostroboides.

Terasa> I just think Hippeastrum just kind of rolls off the tongue.

(laughs) Amanda> Yeah, We should name a hippopotamus, Hippeastrum.

Amanda> Oh, would be fun, wouldn't it?

We'll have to do that sometime, I don't think.

Terasa> I don't know that I have the opportunity to name a hippo, but I think it's... (all laugh) Amanda> Or we'll let... next time Andy comes from the zoo, we'll tell him about that.

Terasa> Exactly.

Amanda> Okay.

All righty.

Okay.

Well, Terasa I bet we could help someone else.

Terasa> Back to our question list.

Let's see.

How about George in Blythewood, who's looking for some help with a problem on cilantro.

"Can someone please help me?

"My cilantro has white spots on the leaves."

Amanda> Okay.

Goodness gracious.

I like cilantro a lot.

Some people aren't fond of it, but I really like it.

And I don't want to have.

I mean it'd be extra protein, but I'd rather not have these, I mean, I don't want spots on my leaves.

(Rob laughs) Rob> Okay, so... Amanda> I'm thinking it's maybe an insect.

Rob> Actually, no, it's not.

Amanda> Wow!

Rob> So when you see the white kind of gray spots, like this.

Amanda> Yeah.

Rob> And all of these spots appear to be at the same level in the plant that is typically indicative of cool damage or chill injury, <Come on.> particularly cilantro.

If it was a (indiscernible) disease, I would typically expect to see some degree of yellowing or discoloration of the foliage.

And we're not seeing that from a photograph, which leaves me more towards, the chill injury.

<Yeah.> When you think about the conditions that the plant had been growing through, we've been very well, <And cilantro> So it's very soft.

<Yeah.> And it suddenly gets cold wouldn't that really soft, tender growth is very susceptible to chill damage, in much the same way that our landscape plants are, The good news is it's not a problem.

And the plant will grow out of it.

<Okay.> And perfectly usable, and coloring, Amanda> And you can sip away.

and cook to your heart's- Rob> Absolutely.

Katie> It won't affect the flavor?

Rob> No, typically not.

No.

Amanda> Okay.

All right, so that was fun.

Thanks for helping us solve the puzzle.

Terasa> It's nice when we have good news.

Amanda> Yes.

Yeah, that was nice.

Rob> Occasionally so.

Amanda> It's actually because you don't want to have to spray something that you're going to eat.

I mean, I mean, you might have to wait.

There might be a period.

Terasa> That's right.

That pre- Amanda> You have to read the labels.

And sometimes it says you can't, you know, harvest for 3 or 4 days.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Well.

Terasa> We're ready for another question?

<Please.> Let's see what we've got.

This comes from Chris in Union, who said "I'm interested in starting a pollinator garden "to encourage butterflies to come into my yard.

"What plants should I consider "including in this garden spot?"

Amanda> Okay.

Well, Brandon, I bet you've got some ideas for us.

Don't you?

Brandon> I do actually.

So the main thing with a pollinator garden for me is going with diversity.

And when I mean diversity, I don't always mean just having multiple different types of plants.

So for one thing, I have two plants here that will, that are good for nectar for butterflies Amanda> When they're flowering?

Brandon> When the flowering.

<Okay.> Brandon> But the thing is they bloom at two different times a year.

So this Purple coneflower you'll get a flower pretty soon, during the summer.

Well, the showy goldenrod will be in the fall.

Amanda> Oh, goldenrod.

Yeah.

Brandon> It's a great flower to provide nectar for butterflies as they migrate south.

So definitely wanting to have some diversity in blooms in spring, summer and fall, the Solidago are going always have something attractive to attract those pollinators.

Amanda> Thank you.

Brandon> As well as.

Amanda> May I ask you, is this one of those... Some people don't like to plant goldenrod because they think at the side of the road, but there have been some improvements for garden varieties, I think.

Brandon> There's improvement in garden varieties and goldenrod.

A lot of times it gets a bad rap as being the, the... Amanda> But it's not.

Brandon> It's not.

It's ragweed.

that makes you... So it's a little different.

<Yeah.> Brandon> The other diversity thing that I like to do is use things like this, which is a Milkweed.

And there's multiple types of Milkweed.

This one is a Butterfly milkweed, this one here that has these kind of like orange flowers.

And then I have a Swamp milkweed here, which is... it will have a pink flower when it actually blooms.

But, of course, by the names they go in different conditions.

This one likes a little more wet feet, but they are great because they allow, insects and wild butterflies to lay their eggs on them as well.

And the eggs then hatch... and it's is a food source for the caterpillars.

<Yes.> So that's a great thing, especially for monarch butterflies.

These plants are very helpful and beneficial to that.

So including these milkweeds in there can really help to get those, to help the butterflies come in and be able to do something, not just feed, but also- Amanda> And do you want to take one of the leaves and break it and show us why it's called Milkweed?

I think it's kind of fascinating.

And the ways that insects, figure out how they can cut that sap, those latex- Brandon> It's not going to give me whole lot on this one.

The common milkweed.

Really, really, if you, if you did that one, they would they would pull a lot of like milky sticky sap out.

Amanda> Yeah.

Yeah.

Brandon> I don't know if the butterfly- Amanda> Oh that's okay.

I didn't'...Yeah.

Brandon> But the... the good thing about milkweeds is that a lot of different types, if you want something that has beautiful flowers, there's Showy milkweeds, there's regular common milkweeds.

<Okay.> Aquatic milkweeds.

So there's a lot of different types.

So definitely, you can find one that works in your garden.

All of these plants will actually grow in a nursery, in Blackstock, South Carolina that grows nothing but plants for butterflies.

<No.> Yeah.

So...they are a very good source Amanda> What's the name of it?

Brandon> Joyful butterfly.

Amanda> Joyful butterfly.

Brandon> And they have a whole catalog of just plants that do nothing but help butterflies, either by providing nectar, or providing food and host plants for the eggs and things.

Amanda> Gracious goodness.

Isn't that fascinating?

Gosh, I'm so glad you told us that.

That's exciting to know about.

Brandon> Yes, ma'am.

Amanda> Okay.

Well, Katie, have you got something we can get excited... You're going to have to really get a showstopper to make up for that.

Katie> I know, I know.

So I brought this container.

I threw this together yesterday.

So it's nice and fresh.

This one has caladiums in it, Caladiums are one of my favorites, that we have in the spring.

They kind of, they kind of come out of the ground.

I think they're tubers and they come out and they, there's many, many, This is just three of my- Amanda> Oh my goodness.

And there are like some little ones and some bigger leaf ones, <Yes> Whatever you want.

Katie> And there's even which is super nice.

There's even, ones.

that'll take the shade little better.

There's ones that'll take a little more sun.

Amanda> Since I think traditionally, shade.

Katie> Yes.

Traditionally they do really well in the shade.

But there are their tags are really helpful.

They come with the tags, and they all have, some really great icons.

It'll either have a cloud and a sun so it can do either, or the sun and the cloud will be together, which means part sun, part shade.

<Okay.> Katie> It makes it really simple.

And, it does a really great job of telling you what's what.

But, this is three different varieties.

You got a really nice... you've got a pink one.

You got a speckled pink one, and then a really nice variegated white and green one.

Amanda> And then you found something to match that too.

Katie> I did, I did, this is a Rieger Begonia.

Rieger Begonias are great because they can be kind of inside or outside.

Inside in bright indirect light, and then you can put it outside in the shade and enjoy blooms like that, as well.

And there's, different colors.

Amanda> Okay.

And then you've got some sheet moss, I think, which is just a lovely way to <Yes> cover the, <Yes> the soil.

<Yeah.> And, let's talk about watering because, you've got a perfectly beautiful container here.

Katie> These pots, this is Burgess.

It's a company in Italy, that makes fantastic pottery.

So this one's more of their bowl shape.

It comes with the saucer.

And so.

Amanda> It's got a hole in the bottom for drainage?

Katie> It does have drainage.

And then you water and the water will empty out into the saucer, which is nice.

Now, if it needs a heavy watering, I, you know, I wouldn't rely if you have this inside, which it wouldn't do great inside.

But if you had it inside or a spot where you don't want water to get everywhere, I would maybe take it somewhere where you're okay with some water spilling over if it really needed a bunch.

Amanda> Okay, but, you shouldn't let it sit in the water.

<right> When the water collects down here, <Right> don't let it sit in that.

Katie> Yeah.

I mean, it's, it's definitely good..right, it's definitely good to, get in good practice of checking your saucers and, your bottom of the pots, like, if you have plants at home that, you're not sure if it has drainage or not.

It's important.

Amanda> Golly pete That's just as pretty as it can be.

Katie> I love this pot...Yes.

Amanda> Thank you.

Amanda> All righty.

Well, Terasa Terasa> Well, I know we're getting tight on time, but we're going to try to squeeze in one more question from May in Columbia, who said, "I planted four azaleas two years ago, "1 is flowering, the others are not.

"Do you have any suggestions?"

And I think Rob might have the answer for this.

Amanda> Well, Rob, what in the world?

Rob> So, there are several reasons why azaleas fail to flower in the spring.

The first one is pruning them at the wrong time.

So obviously with an early spring flower we want to prune immediately after, after flowering.

If we delay, then we're taking off all of that new growth that's going to provide those flower buds for next year.

So that's, that's reason number one.

It could also be the age of the plant.

We may have bought the plants at the same time, but that doesn't necessarily mean they were produced and are the same chronological age.

You know, it could have been an old stock left over Amanda> Okay.

Rob> In the nursery and have been looked after very well by the nursery.

It could be temperature related.

So if you've got a microclimate within the yard, the one area is cooler or gets further, lower temperatures that could actually cause damage to the developing flower buds over the winter.

<Wow.> And the final one is drought stress.

So if you've got different... sorry... if you've got different, plants around in the yard, ones that's close to a tree, for example, you may be inducing drought stress into that, which is going to stress the plant and fail to produce all those flower buds and set those flower buds.

Amanda> Gosh, pete, that's a lot to keep up with.

Rob> And the other one is light, light, as well.

You know, we know that plants like a light, light to grow properly.

Typically azaleas would say about 4 to 6 hours or so.

So morning sun will be very beneficial to those plants.

Afternoon sun is really going to get too hot.

And cause those plants damage because they are understory shrubs rather than a full open canopy.

Amanda> Oh that... thank you so much.

Rob> My pleasure, Amanda.

Amanda> And now we're going to join Carmen Ketron as she went to, back at Clemson to Redfern Community Garden.

♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> Hello, I'm Carmen Ketron, with Clemson Extension in the Darlington and Florence offices.

But today I'm here in the beautiful Clemson University campus.

We're right here at the MANRRS Redfern Community Garden, right next to the Redfern Community Wellness Center.

And right at the entrance of the wonderful Ag Quad on Clemson's campus.

And today, I'm here with Isaiah Barton, <Hey> A recent graduate of Clemson University.

Congratulations.

>> Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Carmen> Yeah.

So tell me about the garden.

Isaiah> The MANRRS Redfern Community Garden started as a barren wasteland, here in the middle of campus.

Sorry, near the middle of the campus.

And it has been transformed by me, with some help, to a oasis of fresh produce.

Carmen> I love it, and it's very very pretty and wonderfully, diverse with all your plantings.

Tell me how the MANRRS chapter got involved and then how you took it, and then was able to, I guess, take an internship and parlay that into place making.

Isaiah> So I've been a member of MANRRS, Clemson's chapter of MANRRS, since me coming in 2022.

So it's a whole acronym, but I try to keep it condensed so MANRRS being an agricultural based organization, I wanted to put on for that because I saw and felt the lack of agricultural spaces and, you know, learning opportunities here on campus, and I also have my own brand as well, Infinite Seeds Academy, which is a garden implementation and gardening education.

And so with me trying to couple those two together into one initiative, the MANRRS Redfern Community Garden was born.

Carmen> Oh, I love it.

Now, were the beds here?

Did you get it started?

Did you build everything ground up?

Isaiah> No, I did not.

So there were actually four beds here existing already.

Ground zero, I call it.

The zero, one, two and three.

And so those are the only ones here.

These were broken down, actually, and they were rebuilt by the construction workers who had this whole area from these flowers over here to all the way to this left side blocked off.

And so they rebuilt it once they left, which I'm grateful for, because I didn't have to do it.

But everything else that you see, I added myself, so.

Carmen> Oh, that's wonderful.

And the diversity of plants is fascinating.

I love walking up on a garden and being able to never see the same thing twice.

Can you tell me about how you guys chose the plants?

What they're for?

Where they go after they're harvested?

Isaiah> Not only is it my personal preference, but because it is a space to help fight food insecurity here on campus and within the surrounding area, I chose edible plants specifically.

And so things like produce like tomatoes, cucumbers, fan favorites, you know, potatoes, sweet potatoes, you know, you're in the South and herbs as well to, to go with those, those vegetables as well.

Carmen> Oh, because we have to get the flavor in.

Isaiah> Yes, of course.

Carmen> Now, I am seeing some lemon thyme.

I'm seeing a lot of sage.

What are your favorite things that are in the garden right now?

Isaiah> Some of my favorite things in the garden right now?

I can always say the sunflowers.

The sunflowers, just... and these are the big ones.

I think they're the mammoth kind.

They're, they're bigger than me.

I'm about six foot, six one and they tower over me.

Other than that, I will say Comfrey, it's a great medicinal herb, but also it has a lot of practical use in an organic garden, as well.

And another fan favorite for me right now is Egyptian walking onions.

Yes.

Carmen> Very cool.

I like that you're working in the perennial edibles.

<Yes.> Carmen> That's fun.

Isaiah> Yes.

I'm not a fan of annuals because it's one year and they're gone.

You know, all that work for what.

Carmen> Exactly.

And that's kind of nice because it's like kind of a set it and forget it.

So your legacy can live on like that.

Isaiah> Exactly.

Carmen> But with your academy and then with you just, I guess bringing this produce to the students, making it available, how do people react?

Isaiah> It...honestly, it almost grew too fast because once there was actually something to look at, it wasn't just dirt or baby plants coming out of the ground.

Once things were blooming, it took off from there.

And so then I started donating the produce to our on campus for student - by student food bank called Paw Pantry.

Carmen> But since you have graduated, how are we keeping it sustainable?

How is it being maintained?

Isaiah> Yes.

So, I'm now rooted in Columbia, South Carolina, as a landscape designer installer for First Priority Landscaping Solutions and Garden Center, and also growing my brand, as well, with Infinite Seeds Academy.

And now I pass the pitchfork off to Sebastian, horticulture major, who is still intertwined with MANRRS very heavily.

And so we have Clemson's chapter of MANRRS supporting the garden full on now and we also have community members and 4-H as well, supporting the garden.

Carmen> Now, if people on campus were wanting to help or hang out or just enjoy the garden, is it open to everybody?

Can they come volunteer?

Isaiah> Yes.

So I would recommend either messaging Sebastian directly or the Instagram.

There's two Instagrams you can message.

There's RCG Clemson and there's CU.MANRRS.

And those are the Instagrams for our Clemson chapter of MANRRS.

And then also the garden page specifically.

Carmen> But I have noticed one of the best things that you, that you can do in this garden is you can just come through and kind of feel, touch, smell.

<Yes> It's very...it has a lot of sensory aspects to it.

So everyone's encouraged to do that.

Isaiah> Yes of course.

Touch, smell, look just take it all in.

Experiential learning is part of the reason I started this space, because learning from experience for me is the best way that I learned.

So I see that working with other people, as well.

So Carmen> That is so true, I love that.

Well, thank you so much for having us over.

I might help myself to a couple of the herbs.

Isaiah> Please do.

Carmen> I'm very excited.

But if you want, Go Tigers?

Isaiah> Go Tigers.

Carmen> One, two, three.

Both> Go Tigers!

♪ ♪ Amanda> It's fun when Carmen comes here.

And it's also fun when Carmen takes us on field trips.

And that was a fun garden to go and visit.

Well, you've got our set, which I think is pretty all the time.

It's especially pretty today.

What did you bring down front?

Katie> Oh my goodness.

So if you can see down front there is a massive, Petunia hanging basket.

It's called Bubblegum Petunias, because it is that bubblegum color.

It's a very popular basket that we have at the greenhouse.

We've got a lot of different hanging basket options, a lot of different combinations.

Some great.. There's one of my favorites is that we do, combos.

So this is just all petunias.

Amanda> It's pretty dramatic looking.

Katie> And it's like I mean it's it's about half the size of me when you hold it up, hold it up next to me.

But, we also have, combo baskets that have a mix of Petunias, Million Bells.

Euphorbia, like the Diamond Frost Euphorbia, and Verbena, as well.

Amanda> What exposure does this want?

Katie> Full sun.

Amanda> Full sun?

Katie> Full sun, yes.

Well, full sun is, you know, about six hours of sun.

So full sun, it can take some heat.

You just want to keep it watered.

Amanda> Watered, watered, watered.

Katie> I would probably water it every morning.

Amanda> Okay.

Well thank you.

Thank everybody who came, so nice and so nice to have you with us.

I hope that, you'll come back again sometime.

Brandon> Definitely.

Amanda> I hope we didn't scare you off.

Brandon> Definitely not.

Amanda> And to you at home, we thank you for being with us, and we hope we can see you next week.

Night, night.

♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ Narrator> Making It Grow is brought to you in part by Certified South Carolina.

This cooperative effort among farmers, retailers and the South Carolina Department of Agriculture helps consumers identify foods and agricultural products that are grown, harvested or raised right here in the Palmetto State.

McLeod Farms in McBee, South Carolina, family owned and operated since 1916.

This family farm offers seasonal produce, including over 40 varieties of peaches.

Wesley Commons, a full service continuing care retirement community located on more than 150 wooded acres in Greenwood, South Carolina.

Additional funding provided by the South Carolina Farm Bureau Federation and Farm Bureau Insurance and Boone Hall Farms.

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